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We will counsel you on your unspeakable concerns.
- National Competition on Worries! - Competition on Worries!
(National Competition on Worries)
(Scream)
Let me introduce you to our today's guests.
Actor Jeon No Min!
(Jeon No Min, the great actor)
Kwon Eun Bi and Kim Min Ju of IZ*ONE!
They're so pretty.
Rapper Giant Pink!
- Giant Pink. - Rapper.
- And Kim Haon! - Kim Haon!
- Hello. - Haon.
It's so good to see No Min on our show.
It's nice to see you too.
I thought you would never appear on a variety show.
- I avoided it for a while, - Yes.
but when I wanted to be on such shows, no one invited me.
- Exactly. - Right.
I wonder how he is in real life.
I heard you never get angry.
That's not true. You're misinformed.
- So... - I lose my temper...
from time to time. While holding back my anger,
I suddenly start yelling. "What's wrong with you?"
Your public image from your dramas is totally different.
He and I have been in a baseball club for 20 years.
When I make a mistake during a match, he suddenly says,
"Kim Tae Gyun!"
- Really? When you make a mistake? - During a baseball match.
I get surprised when he does that.
- He's incredibly competitive. - Exactly.
Meanwhile, Haon is famous as a kind rapper...
- A kind rapper? - who never gets angry.
- That's right. - Do you feel angry sometimes?
I always try to let anger flow through myself.
- That's what elders would say. - For example, when I'm annoyed...
- He's very mature for his age. - That's right.
- You became an adult this year. - That's right.
I bet there were many things you wanted to do as an adult.
How do you feel right now?
- He drew up one knee. - Look at him.
Did you want to do it that much?
- This is how adults usually sit. - That's right.
- You're legally allowed to drink. - Yes.
- But I don't like drinking. - He doesn't drink a lot.
When I was little, on my mother's dressing table...
Was it makeup remover? I'm not sure what it was.
- I ate it by mistake. - Like acetone nail polish remover?
- Wasn't it acetone? - Did you drink acetone?
- Something like that. - Did you drink it?
I had a sip of it.
One day, I tried soju.
- Did it remind you of the memory? - Soju?
It reminded me of the memory and made me feel sick.
- Alcohol drinks taste much better. - Exactly.
- Is that right? - Yes.
Haon, you're good at writing hopeful lyrics.
- for a rap song. - Yes.
I heard you prepared a hopeful rap song...
- for us. - That's great.
("Nylon" by Haon)
Until I reach the ocean
(The loop of realization My two feet are moving together)
(What you realize from ignorance is ironic)
(Life is ironic I will do it just as I always have)
(A mere little boy becomes an iconic star)
(The weather is too nice to stand still)
(On and on before today becomes yesterday)
(Stable rapping skills)
(He's amazing.)
(Awesome)
- Thank you. - Since he's a rapper,
Giant Pink focused on his performance.
I can't rap fast as he does.
He raps really fast.
- Right? - He's really fast.
You speak in Gyeongsang Province dialect.
- Yes. - Can you rap in dialect too?
No. I can't do that. To be honest,
I don't think I have a thick accent.
You sound just like a person from Busan.
(She just sounds like a person from her hometown.)
- Is that right? - Yes.
Then when you talk to your friends in Busan on the phone...
or when you meet them, do they say your accent changed?
Yes. They say I sound like a person living in Seoul.
But still, I can say...
"Where are you?" just like people from Seoul.
- "Where are you?" - "Where are you?"
Then my friends say, "Oh, my. You sound just like a Seoul girl."
- When you say, "Where are you?" - Yes.
They think I use standard language perfectly.
Did you think of any other names other than Giant Pink?
- Lip Balm. - Lip Balm?
- As in lip care product? - Yes.
I liked how it sounds when I say it. Lip Balm.
It sounds cool.
- You liked how it sounds. - However,
I thought that other rapper could rap like this to diss me.
I'm going to smash you and put you on my lips, Lip Balm
Like this.
I gave up on that name right away.
- That's funny. - "I'm going to smash you."
Eun Bi and Min Ju...
have never been on Hello before.
Doesn't each of you have a different image?
Yes. I'm the one who's charismatic and cute at the same time.
- Cute? - Charismatic...
- and cute? - Yes.
- How about you, Min Ju? - I am...
- the clean member. - Clean?
Is someone in your group dirty?
What are you saying?
IZ*ONE released a new song.
- Can you show us a little bit? - Right.
- Yes. - Please come forward.
(Please entertain our eyes and ears.)
("Violeta" by IZ*ONE)
(The lovely girl group is back as spring came.)
(They're wonderful.)
(It's going to be a big hit.)
- "Violeta". - All right.
Today, we have...
three stories as always.
Show us the keywords please.
These are the three keywords.
"A Goal-related Problem". "The Room from the Netherworld".
"A Bolt from the Blue".
Hello. I'm in my 40s, and I have a son and daughter...
who are 16 and 14 years old respectively...
and are the apple of my eye.
My daughter, who started middle school this year,
always got very good grades.
- That's great. - She must be happy.
"Oh, my. Ma'am, Min Ju..."
She has the same name as Min Ju.
- Min Ju? - They have the same name.
"Min Ju got perfect scores for the exam and was ranked top."
"My goodness. Ma'am, congratulations."
"Min Ju won the Minister Award."
(Good job, Min Ju.)
My daughter, who used to be my pride, suddenly said,
"Mom, I'm going to drop out of middle school."
(I'm going to drop out of school.)
Such bad news came like a bolt from the blue.
- "But... Daughter." - Middle school?
"Why do you want to drop out of school suddenly?"
"Why are you saying this?"
"The school curriculum doesn't suit me."
"Then what are you going to do alone instead of going to school?"
"I can do well by myself."
"Let me drop out of school first, okay?"
My daughter became so stubborn and won't listen to me.
"Daughter, can't you wait for another semester until you decide?"
"Why should I waste my time?"
"Nothing will change my mind."
"I'm dropping out of school."
I begged her. I got angry at her.
I even spanked her, but she still won't listen to me.
Please help me change her mind so that she will graduate...
from middle school with no problem.
My goodness.
(Please stop my daughter from dropping out of school.)
Learning is important, but also, school is...
a small society.
Kids go to school to improve their social skills too.
How were you...
(Oh, right. Haon also...)
- When you went to school? - I dropped out of high school...
- Right. - to start my music career.
That's right. Haon did it.
However, I can understand...
why she said it would be a waste of time.
She can't learn...
what she wants to study at school.
I understand that.
But I think it's too early to drop out of school.
That's right.
If even Haon thinks like this,
- her mother must've been shocked. - Exactly.
Let's bring out our guest.
Please come out.
(Who is worried about her daughter who wants to quit school?)
(Kim Seon Mi)
(Hello)
You must have been perplexed.
Yes. I was very surprised.
Four days after she started middle school,
she came home and said she wanted to...
drop out of middle school.
I'm sure you told her that she couldn't do that.
- Yes, I did. - What did she say?
When I told her that, she seemed very determined.
I tried to convince her nicely, yelled at her,
and even spanked her.
But nothing changed her mind.
Every morning, my daughter and I give each other a kiss...
before she goes to school.
But since I said I wouldn't let her drop out of school,
she doesn't give me a kiss before she goes to school anymore.
She writes on her messenger profile...
why she wants to drop out of school...
and that she wanted to live her life as she planned it...
and hoped it would be the right path for her.
She's been uploading those writings a lot.
What does your daughter want to do after dropping out of school?
(The former guest who also wanted to drop out of school)
(The Reasons for Dropping out: 1. I want to make money.)
(2. I want to start my music career.)
(3. I just want to stay at home.)
(Why does her daughter want to drop out of school?)
She wants to be homeschooled.
- Pardon me? - She wants to be homeschooled.
- She wants to be homeschooled? - She wants to study alone at home?
Yes. She wants to study alone at home...
and take the qualification exam.
Is there anyone around you who's homeschooling their children?
No. There's none.
She said it even though there's no one who is being homeschooled.
I watched "High School Rapper",
and the winner and the runner-up of the competition said...
that they dropped out of high school.
It's him.
(He feels guilty about it.)
So I thought she might have been influenced by him.
- But she said it wasn't the reason. - It wasn't because of you.
When your daughter said she wanted to drop out of school,
did you see if she had any problems at school...
or try anything like that?
I did. I consulted with her teacher.
She's been an elite student since elementary school.
She got good grades...
and behaved well in classes.
So her teacher didn't notice it.
Everything we guessed was wrong.
She gets good grades.
She's good at math and science.
- She won the Minister Award. - The Minister Award?
She was also a class president. She's been a good student.
Also, she took the admission exam for the institute for the gifted.
- The institute for the gifted? - Yes. She went to the institute.
(What happened to my daughter who used to be my pride?)
Let's meet her daughter and continue the talk.
- Hello. - Hello.
Please put your mic closer to your mouth.
She's so pretty.
She's pretty.
She looks so smart.
She looks smart and pretty.
She's pretty.
Do you understand why your mom sent her story to us?
My mom seems to be shocked...
because I suddenly said I would drop out of school.
- Of course, she is. - But I want to do it...
because I want to study according to my own schedule...
while being homeschooled in order to find myself.
Some people who have more life experience said...
that their friends from school and the painful memories back then...
played the role of spiritual nourishment...
as they led their lives.
I did hesitate to make the decision...
because of my friends and good memories I could make with them.
But I was drawn to my studies.
- She has strong willpower. - You leaned towards your studies.
So you want to start homeschooling...
before you get attached to your friends, right?
- Yes. - To your friends at school.
- She has strong willpower. - Then...
Is it just that you want to study alone?
Or do you have any specific goals?
I'll get a middle school degree...
through the qualification exam.
I'll study Spanish and Chinese.
And to be honest, my goal is...
to enroll in an autonomous private high school.
- Will you go to high school? - Yes.
(She wants to be homeschooled only for middle school.)
So she wants to be homeschooled only for middle school...
and go to a private high school. She'll have to study hard.
- It requires a lot of studying. - She should study hard.
- She has a specific plan. - Right.
Since I'm a night owl,
(She's so cute.)
From 1am to 5am,
I can concentrate on studying better than any other time.
- My goodness. - So I find good online lectures.
You watch online lectures.
Yes. I ask questions on the Q and A board...
and get replies.
I want to study alone like that.
This is her study schedule.
It says "milk T". What does it mean?
Mondays and Wednesdays...
That's the name of the online lecture website.
- Oh, online lecture? - I see.
I thought she drinks a cup of milk tea.
I thought it meant a drink too.
I thought she was sophisticated.
She would drink before starting studying.
(I will never waste a single moment!)
That's a tight schedule.
(She really starts at night.)
- So she sleeps in the morning. - That's right.
- She goes to bed in the morning... - It's late night.
- and wakes up in the afternoon. - She starts studying at night.
She goes to bed at 6am.
- I work on my music at that hour. - It's unexpected.
- You work during those hours? - I work until early morning.
- It's a musician's work schedule? - Yes.
She already planned her study schedule.
She doesn't seem to study...
according to her plan.
When I tried to check her workbooks,
she didn't let me see them.
So I checked them when she was sleeping,
and she hadn't finished what she planned to do.
That made me doubt that she might not be able to...
follow through on her plans.
Why did you hide your workbook?
Why didn't you let her see it?
I wanted to show her only what I did well.
- You wanted to be praised. - Yes.
Why do you want to show her only what you do well?
There are many other problems she's dealing with.
So I just want to make her happy.
- You want to make her happy? - She's such a good daughter.
(Touched)
She's afraid of letting her mom down...
because it could make her upset.
Did you know that your daughter thought that way about you?
I didn't know that she thought so deeply.
My eyes are tearing up.
(Teary eyed)
(The 14-year-old Min Ju cares about her mother dearly.)
I used to scold her a lot when she didn't study hard.
- All of a sudden? - I think she was under pressure...
to be on top of her class.
Is what your mom said true?
Are you under pressure just as she said?
Yes. I also feel upset when I'm not ranked top.
So I want to study alone without being ranked.
- That's why you wanted it. - I see.
That's one of the reasons.
- It breaks my heart... - Exactly.
- because... - My goodness.
Was your mom very strict...
when it comes to your studies?
Su Jeong, my friend who is sitting next to me...
My mom said I couldn't concentrate on studying as well as she does.
"Then why don't you raise Su Jeong instead of me?"
I thought of saying this, but I couldn't.
You wanted to say it, but you couldn't.
"Why don't you raise Su Jeong instead? Nothing."
"Then be Su Jeong's mom. Why are you my mom?"
"Why would you compare me to her?" Why didn't you complain?
That would have made her upset.
See? She's so considerate of her mom.
You don't want to make her upset?
(She's so nice.)
Her homeroom teacher...
when she was in sixth grade also came here.
Her teacher is here.
Hello.
(It's nice to meet you.)
Min Ju got good grades,
but on top of that, she has such a warm heart.
Whenever her friends were in trouble, she helped them.
But suddenly, I heard that she would drop out of school.
I thought I misheard.
I kept asking, "Are you sure it's Min Ju?"
- Of course. - While hearing the news,
I think I repeated the question about 10 times.
- You repeated it a lot. - Yes.
It was hard to believe.
- She repeated it many times. - "Are you sure it's Min Ju?"
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe she was...
under too much pressure to be ranked top...
all the time?
When she got one of the questions wrong in an exam,
even I came to think, "Min Ju got this wrong?"
- Everyone thinks she's perfect... - She must be pressured.
getting good grades always.
- That's why... - That's a lot of pressure on a kid.
I think she might have been hurt emotionally.
Ma'am, I think it was wrong of you.
She got just one question wrong, but you said, "Min Ju got it wrong?"
- She's really smart, so... - You went on saying,
- "Are you sure it's Min Ju?" - "Are you sure it's Min Ju?"
Ma'am, you say that too often.
At the parent consultation in each semester,
Min Ju's mother consulted about getting admission to a university.
Considering that,
I can assume that Min Ju might have been...
stressed out from studying.
- Her mother... - Ma'am, have you made a plan...
for her university admission?
Whenever I think of Min Ju,
I think she's my pride.
When she started middle school,
she set her mind on going to an autonomous private high school.
I said that I wanted her to go to Seoul National University...
so that she gets the best job she could get...
and live a good life.
- You mean, Min Ju? - Min Ju is pretty.
She's pretty and smart.
But she suddenly said she wanted to drop out of school.
She doesn't have to be ranked top all the time.
However, she achieved a lot until now.
Ma'am, do you admit that you had some influence...
on her decision?
When I look around her,
I believe Min Ju must study hard.
- I... - What do you mean by that?
thought like that.
Min Ju's brother is two years older than her.
- Does she have a brother? - Yes. He's in ninth grade.
He has a disability.
He has an intellectual disability to the first degree.
He started to have a seizure within a year after he was born.
He still has more than 10 seizures in a day.
You must be surprised.
His body grew up.
But he has the intellectual ability of a one-year-old baby.
His intellectual ability?
Yes. He needs someone to feed him...
- and help him go to the bathroom. - Oh, dear.
So I think I had the obsession...
in my heart until now.
And Min Ju got good grades just as I wanted her to.
My mom explained me about our situation...
and said she had high hopes for me.
So I knew how she felt.
Does it make you feel pressured whenever she says such a thing?
Or does it make you want to work harder just as she wants?
It makes me think that I should study hard.
You think you should do it. Do you also feel pressured?
A little bit.
(A little bit to be honest.)
(Min Ju thinks maturely.)
- It breaks my heart. - I feel the same.
I can understand her mother, but...
Min Ju knows how her mother feels...
- at such a young age. - That's right.
(Min Ju tries to work harder.)
I heard...
that you wanted to bring your brother, but he couldn't come.
That's right. Sunlight or lighting...
is bad for my brother. It can cause a seizure.
My brother makes me feel good when I'm with him.
When I study in my room,
he stays in my room with me.
When he sleeps on my lap,
he looks so cute.
- She's so sweet. - My goodness.
And when I sing "Where Are My Eyes"...
and "Just Stop It",
he smiles.
(She smiles when he smiles.)
They must be your brother's favorite songs.
"Where Are My Eyes"?
- Can you sing it for us? - Just a little.
Where
(Where are my eyes?)
(They're right here)
(Singing with affection)
(They're feeling as if they're her family.)
(My sister is singing greatly.)
He likes this song.
- She's adorable. - She's good.
(There must be no sister like her.)
I assume that she's good to her brother.
- It must make you adore her. - Yes.
Even though her brother has a larger body than hers,
when he fails to go to the bathroom, she takes off his clothes...
- to wash him. - Oh, my. She's incredible.
She also feeds him.
Min Ju looks after her brother...
better than adults.
(Min Ju loves and cares about him more than anyone else does.)
Are you and Min Ju the only ones who look after him?
Since he's in ninth grade, he goes to a special needs school.
My husband has a full-time job,
and I have a part-time job.
So I ask Min Ju for help many times.
She looks after her brother whenever I ask.
You must be grateful.
Do you want to be homeschooled...
so that you can look after your brother...
for a longer time as well?
No. My brother has nothing to do with my decision.
You went too far.
When I think of Min Ju,
what breaks my heart the most...
An acquaintance once said...
that it would be hard for Min Ju to get married...
because her brother has a disability,
no one would accept her...
- into their family. - Gosh.
(That's so mean.)
It's too early to worry about it.
I heard a lot of people saying such a thing.
- And when I... - Who would say that?
went out with my son,
a couple in their 20s suddenly...
pointed their fingers at my son and started giggling.
It didn't look like they laughed because my son was adorable.
I thought they were laughing at him.
When I go out with my son,
his disability turns into a big problem.
Thinking that my daughter...
has to carry the burden and deal with the problems as well,
I had no choice...
but to be strict to her for many reasons.
Because of her brother,
Min Ju dreams...
to become a teacher at a special needs school.
She tells me about her dream often.
I saw my brother's teacher...
being unkind to my mom and brother.
Also, my brother can hurt himself when he has a seizure and falls,
so my mom asked his teacher to spread a mat around him,
but his teacher refused it.
There was a conflict between his teacher and my family,
which made all my family members upset.
So I want to become a teacher at a special needs school...
and make people in the same situation as us happy.
- Oh, dear. - You don't have to choose...
an autonomous private high school or Seoul National University...
to become a teacher at a special needs school.
Well... That's true.
That's right. Right, ma'am?
I'm not against the idea of becoming a teacher,
but if she graduates from an elite university,
she will have more options to choose from.
(She needs to try to understand Min Ju.)
Let's put aside the matter of dropping out of school for now.
When do you get stressed out the most, honestly?
Even when I get stressed out all of a sudden,
I feel better a few days later.
So I don't remember anything particular.
But still... It looks like you think...
that being stressed out is a luxury for yourself.
Don't think that way and tell us...
- what stresses you out. - Don't worry about anything.
(Looking around)
When I have plans with my friends,
but I can't go out because I have to look after my brother,
I feel stressed a little bit.
- I see. - Of course, you do.
(Of course, you do.)
(It was hard for her to tell how she really feels.)
I know it's hard. It's really hard.
What are the things you like?
I like listening to music, reading comic books,
- and hanging out with my friends. - Then she can't get good grades.
Those are what lazy people like.
- What about your future job? - Right. Lazy people like doing it.
Do you want to be anything else than a special needs school teacher?
I want to be the owner of a macaron shop.
- She's so adorable. - She's cute.
- She's adorable. - She's adorable.
- That's great. - She's so adorable.
The way she thinks is so lovely.
What else? Other than the owner of a macaron shop?
I also want to become a variety show producer.
- A variety show producer? - That sounds great.
I want to become a TV show writer too.
- A TV show writer? - A TV show writer?
You can do anything you want.
(I didn't know that she had so many dreams.)
We have asked for advice from experts,
and I also realized it...
as I grew up with a sibling who has a disability.
It's natural for the parents...
to pay more attention to the child with a disability.
- And you know that. - Right.
You feel like you're doing something wrong...
when you get upset and tell yourself not to.
But you can't help but to keep the feelings pent up inside.
That makes it hard for you to develop the ability...
to see the diversity of the world.
You always consider the situation your brother is in...
before you make a decision.
That's probably why...
you thought of becoming a teacher at a special needs school.
I'm sure my sister became one for the same reason.
But that's not the only solution.
And that's not necessarily the only right way to think.
Absolutely.
I think Min Ju's mother...
should change first.
- Me too. - You said you didn't say anything,
but you're telling Min Ju that she should go to an elite school...
- to make her dream come true. - You're not right about it, ma'am.
- That's not true. - If you say...
that she's your pride,
she can't do anything she wants. She must feel trapped.
We talked to her for a short while,
- but we could see how kind she is. - That's right.
- She can take care of herself... - Of course.
and lead a happy life on her own, in my opinion.
I'm worried because it seems like you decided on...
what she should do to become happy...
and is trying to make her meet your standards.
Min Ju will do well on her own even if you leave her alone.
(Thinking how pressured Min Ju must've been until now,)
(Min Ju's mother sheds tears.)
(She thought that she was doing it for the sake of Min Ju.)
Ma'am, well...
I sincerely apologize if I made you cry.
- It's your fault. - That's right.
If people change how they look at your brother...
so that your mom doesn't get stressed out so much...
and help your mom feel at ease,
would you finish middle school...
as your mom wishes?
Right.
(I want to.)
(Min Ju has been hiding what she really thinks.)
(She wants to play with her friends and do many things.)
(She put her family's happiness before her own.)
(If I become a good student, will Mom become happy?)
(Will I be able to help my brother?)
(She might have decided to drop out of school under pressure.)
Why...
She must feel sorry.
I thought...
Min Ju might live like me if she didn't study.
(Min Ju might live like me if she didn't study.)
I wanted to give her a different life.
(She wanted to give her daughter a different life.)
But...
I felt sorry...
after listening to her.
(It was burdening her daughter.)
Can you say something...
to Min Ju?
Min Ju.
I'm sorry.
(It's no one's fault.)
(They've been doing their best for each other's sake.)
I love you.
(I love you, Min Ju.)
Oh, my.
We should all know.
If the welfare system improves, even the handicapped children...
If we all work together,
- Right. - we can help Min Ju's family.
Min Ju's mom can't fix everything.
(This kind of worry will disappear.)
Min Ju, say something to your mom.
Look at her.
Whatever we do, let's be happy.
I love you.
(I love you, Mom.)
Min Ju.
Stop crying.
You said you saw my shows.
Did you see the plans I wrote down when I dropped out?
I don't want you to decide to drop out of school...
- just on a whim. - Right.
When I graduated from middle school,
I really didn't understand why I should...
go to high school.
Still, I thought I should go for at least a year.
Even while doing something you don't want to,
you'll always learn something.
You can't spread love and happiness...
if you don't have it yourself.
You should give enough of it to yourself first...
and let it flow to others.
So I want you to make yourself...
- happy first. - He's a good talker.
You're the kindest person I've ever seen...
who is younger than me.
I will cheer for you.
Haon, your mom is on the phone.
(Haon shares heartfelt advice.)
But Haon...
drank acetone when he was little.
- Keep that in mind. - You need a lot of experience.
(Experience many things.)
- Is it a worry or not? - Is it a worry or not?
I couldn't say it earlier because I felt so sad.
When she wants to say something, she glances at her mom.
- Right. - It really breaks my heart.
Stop worrying about what your mom thinks.
I think you should just do what you want to do.
(No Min thinks it's not a worry.)
I really wanted to be a singer when I was little,
but my parents disapproved.
Just like you...
I wanted to show my mom...
I was happy.
So I hid my emotions.
But now my parents are happy...
that I'm happy.
I want you to stop...
feeling so burdened...
and do everything you want to do.
All right.
(Eun Bi thinks it's not a worry.)
I don't want you to give up on feeling happy at this moment...
because of other things.
I don't want to pressure you with anything,
so I won't make a choice.
Stop feeling burdened and become happy.
(Giant Pink thinks it's not a worry.)
Listen to the girl who speaks a Seoul dialect.
(I just spoke in a Seoul dialect.)
If you think it's a worry, please press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Time's up.
Your brother couldn't come here.
Say something to her.
Look at that camera.
- I think he's watching. - She's so cute.
She's adorable.
- Hi. - Right.
I know it's hard for you.
Oh, my.
[VIU Ver] E407 Hello Counselor "Being Selfish" -♥ Ruo Xi ♥-
I want you to be happy.
I love you.
My goodness.
(He will stay strong thanks to an angel like Min Ju.)
(We hope Min Ju won't have to cry anymore.)
(We hope she will share her emotions with her family...)
(and become happier.)
Let's see how many votes they got. Show us the result.
(The result)
Is it over 100? It's 99.
(99 votes)
(See you at home, brother.)
"A Goal-related Problem".
I need a husband from Mokpo.
Will you marry me?
Come over here.
Over here.
Hello.
I'm raising 10, 9, and 4-year-old daughters...
and six-month-old son.
- Oh, my. - And I'm still in my 30s.
I had children early.
I can't stand...
my husband's hobbies anymore.
"Honey, you're going today too?"
"Yes, I am."
(Serious)
"It's raining outside."
"I'm going."
Are you Byeon Kang Soe?
Your voice sounds so serious.
"An excessive heat warning has been issued. Are you really going?"
- Oh, right. - You should have said this line.
(The experienced host helps him out.)
- My vision... - You have vision problems?
Do you want to try these?
They might help.
You'll see much better.
- I see much better. - Let's start from here.
Right?
"An excessive heat warning has been issued."
"I want to go out and run."
My husband is obsessed with...
soccer.
Soccer, soccer, soccer.
I really want to rip up...
all soccer balls in the world.
(Like this?)
"It's our child's talent show today. Where are you?"
"I'm playing soccer."
"Don't give me that excuse."
"I know there's no game today."
"There's no game, right?"
"I need to do some paperwork for the soccer association."
- Oh, my. - I don't understand.
When another child is born, he puts more time...
- into soccer. - My goodness.
Even when I was giving birth to our fourth child...
When she was giving birth?
That's too much.
"I have to go."
"Our child was just born. Where are you going?"
"It's not like I gave birth."
(It's not like I gave birth.)
(Shocked)
(Someone please tell me it's not true.)
Let me go play a game.
(All he thinks about is soccer.)
It's making me angry.
Whenever I gave birth, he ran away like this.
My goodness.
Should I give my husband a kick?
That's the story.
Which part made you angry the most while acting?
- As you are a man too. - All of it. The thing is,
I've been playing baseball for 30 years too.
But I know when to skip.
And whenever I went to play baseball,
I took my daughter with me.
(He took his daughter with him.)
It must have been hard for her.
(Hurt)
Let's welcome the wife.
(Who is worried about her husband who is obsessed with soccer?)
She looks so young.
(Park Su A)
I'm surprised. You have four kids, and you look so young.
- That's right. - Welcome.
Do you really have four kids?
Yes. They're 10, 9,
and 4 years old, and 6 months old.
I'm a mom.
How old were you when you got married?
I was 23.
I spent my 20s raising kids.
But my husband has been busy...
playing soccer.
Before our fourth child was born,
my husband promised he'd change and help me.
- But he still plays soccer. - I see.
- People don't change easily. - After listening to you,
Dong Yeob must be curious.
(It's my go-to question.)
You're so busy, and he's obsessed with soccer,
but you kept having children.
(How can they keep having children?)
How is that possible?
We originally planned on having three children,
but our fourth child was unexpected.
What happened that day?
(Why would you ask that?)
How often does he play soccer?
He plays every day.
- Every day? - Not just on the weekends?
No. On weekdays,
he plays soccer after work.
On weekends, he goes out in the morning and comes home late.
Is his work related to soccer?
No, not at all.
He works at a hospital.
- He's an office worker. - He's an office worker.
It's not related to soccer.
Not at all.
He's a member of the hospital soccer club,
and he's also been a member of another team,
and he even works as a manager.
He's also a member of the soccer association management.
He's completely obsessed.
Yes. That's why he doesn't have much time.
(His family becomes a low priority.)
I played your husband while reading the story.
Did he go to play soccer...
- when you were giving birth? - No.
- It was after I gave birth. - As soon as you gave birth.
- Yes. - I am sure it was right after.
I noticed that...
you address your husband using honorific terms.
(He went to play soccer.)
(He is a board member too.)
(He doesn't seem to think.)
Do you always talk to him using honorifics?
No. When we are outside,
- I use honorifics to him. - My goodness.
- Always? - Yes.
At home, I call him, "Hey!"
"Hey".
Are you using the honorifics because you are outside now?
I also use honorifics when he's going to play soccer.
- You get upset. - Yes.
Why didn't you try rebelling against him?
I tried running away from home.
But because of the babies,
- it didn't last a day. - Right.
Why is he so confident?
Let's meet her confident husband.
Let's hurry and meet him.
Hello, sir.
(Who is her husband who cares about soccer more than his four children?)
He looks like he'd be good at playing soccer.
You just heard everything.
Do you sympathize with your wife's concern?
I am sorry that she has to raise four children.
But I hope she will understand me.
Soccer is healing for me.
What do you want her to understand?
I want her to understand that I have to play soccer.
But you play so much.
In Mokpo of Jeolla Province, there are a lot of people...
who are like me.
- Are there a lot? - Are there a lot of people...
with four children who play soccer all week long?
But you promised to help her. Did you or did you not?
I promised her.
Why are you not keeping your promise then?
I am the chairman of a soccer association.
I also work as a manager for Mokpo city soccer team.
Mokpo Football Association has 33 teams...
and 1,500 members.
I manage them.
From league games to administration, I manage everything.
The chairman of the association asked me to do it,
so I couldn't turn it down.
(He couldn't turn it down because the chairman asked.)
(Sighing)
By the way, you turn down your wife's requests so well.
What's the reason you are taking those responsibilities?
When it comes to my wife's requests,
I refuse them well.
- I know it's bad. - Well done.
It's part of my social life.
I think doing other people's favor...
will in turn benefit me.
What benefit do you think...
you can gain from that?
I am helping...
my wife's cafe.
The association members drop by her cafe...
and get coffee.
- That's it. - Coffee.
The soccer club members come to drink coffee.
- Yes. - That's an amazing benefit.
Does it help the sales a lot?
No.
(Of course, it doesn't help.)
Actually, when he comes...
to my cafe with his friends who he plays soccer with,
he says, "Bring some coffee."
Then I give them coffee for free.
- You don't charge? - I don't.
Why would we charge my friends money?
(Why would we charge my friends money?)
(He's unbelievable.)
- They should raise the sales. - You are...
(She's about to give up using the honorifics to him.)
Do you have a job too?
Because we have four kids,
- I want to make a contribution. - She's a hard-working mom.
That's why I am running the cafe.
When I tell him that I'm tired after the work,
he tells me, "Then you should earn as much as me."
(He's heartless.)
- He says that. - You husband said that?
Yes.
Did you say that?
(It's upsetting.)
When we fight,
she tells me to look after the children.
Then I tell her she should perhaps work and earn as much as me.
Isn't that what you should do?
(Why is he so frustrating?)
He must be spending a lot while working for those organizations.
Yes. He spends 500 to 700 dollars...
for food and drinks.
It's around that much.
- That's what he spends alone? - Yes. He once bought...
700-dollar soccer shoes.
(He bought 700-dollar soccer shoes for himself.)
- He bought a pair. - 700 dollars.
That made me think...
that he is really out of his mind.
About that...
(Everything has a reason.)
There are many people who are more obsessed with soccer shoes than me.
- In Mokpo. - In Mokpo?
- In Mokpo. - In Mokpo.
- That's... - Is it not a big deal in Mokpo?
It's not a big deal.
- I am nothing compared to them. - Go ahead and tell us.
I am nothing compared to them. As the manager of a team,
As the manager of the team, I have to treat players to drinks...
and to meals.
Only then they will come on Sunday and play the game.
Your wife says you spend about 700 to 800 dollars.
But when you spend a lot,
how much money do you spend alone using a card?
I don't use a card.
- What? Cash? - I only use cash.
Yes.
I spend about 1,500 to 2,000 dollars.
(He's a generous manager.)
- Did you know? - Did you know?
No. I didn't know it was that bad.
Where do you get cash?
- I secretly get it. - Secretly?
Yes.
You use your emergency savings.
By the way, didn't you feel sorry going to play soccer...
when your wife had just given birth?
I felt sorry of course.
It's more upsetting because he admits to everything.
- He says everything. - He is sorry.
I am sorry, but honestly,
I felt happy.
I had to tell everyone in town...
that we just had a new baby.
That's why I went to play soccer.
- I wanted to brag it to my friends. - "The baby is out!"
- "Let's go play sports!" - I know.
That's not it.
I wasn't needed there.
(He wasn't needed.)
But just staying beside her is good enough.
Even if you weren't needed, you shouldn't have said that.
"It's you giving birth to the child, not me."
Did you really say that?
- It's not like she was at work. - No.
- No? - No.
He didn't say, "It's you giving birth to the child, not me."
He said if he could go...
since he's not the one who gave birth.
- Since he didn't give birth? - Right.
- It's the same thing. - How are they different?
They are the same.
"I am not the one who gave birth to the child." Did you say that?
(They check again with him.)
Yes.
How can you say it in such an offensive way?
Then when your husband...
is not playing soccer and is staying home,
- does he take care of... - She was in such a hurry...
- the children? - that she cut me off.
We haven't even heard his answer.
- I got upset. - You got upset, didn't you?
Punch the pillow. Like this.
You have to do that. You can't let the anger build up.
Fire it away, Eun Bi.
Does he look after the children?
He just looks at the children.
- He looks at them. - He looks at the children.
He just looks at them.
When he comes home,
I tell him to watch the baby...
and go to take a shower.
In less than 10 minutes, just because the baby is crying,
he brings the baby to me when I am taking a shower.
"There's Mommy." He leaves all the doors open.
I am in the middle of a shower.
- He leaves all the doors open. - He can't bear a few minutes?
(He's embarrassed.)
Let's meet their kids. Let's talk to the eldest.
Does your father hang out with you a lot, So Yeon?
No.
Do you want to play soccer with your dad?
No. I don't like playing soccer.
Then what do you want to do with your dad?
I don't want to do anything with Dad.
(It's shocking.)
- You don't want to do anything. - I feel awkward around him.
- He didn't play with them before. - He doesn't come home often.
- She's awkward around him. - She's only 10.
Have you ever told your dad...
not to go out, So Yeon?
Yes. I've said it many times.
What does your dad say every time?
Dad says he has to go.
- My gosh. - And he leaves.
- He's not an independence fighter. - Right now...
When did he make you feel the saddest?
When he comes home,
he only looks at his phone.
He tells me to watch the baby.
The babies.
- What? - She's just 10 years old.
(Did he really do that to her?)
- Let's talk to the second child. - Hello.
- Hello. - "Hello."
Stop pretending to be cute.
(Stop pretending to be cute.)
When did your dad make you feel the saddest?
When he didn't play with me.
- When he didn't play with you. - When he didn't play with you.
He only looked at his phone.
He was home, but he just kept...
- looking at his phone? - Yes.
Do you want to play soccer with your dad?
- Yes. - Really?
- The second daughter finds it fun. - That's good.
Have you seen your dad playing soccer?
Yes.
- Is he good? - Yes.
- He's good? - Yes.
(My dad is good.)
Your sister says that.
- Have you seen him playing soccer? - I have.
- Is your dad good? - No.
- No. - Right.
- Is your dad a good soccer player? - Yes.
- She's cute. - Let's ask the first daughter.
- Is your dad a good soccer player? - No.
(Same question)
- Is your dad a good soccer player? - No.
(They have the same dad, but they have different thoughts.)
- Do you have different dads? - Ask them more questions.
- How can we check? - I know.
Let's do a little test.
- He can dribble a ball - Let's see it.
I am not...
- All of a sudden? - that good.
All of a sudden? Please come on out and show us.
- He's coming out. - Okay.
(Welcome to Hello ground.)
Come to the center and face the front.
2, 3.
(He instinctively kicks the ball.)
4, 5, 6.
(He's been a member of Mokpo soccer club for 18 years.)
(My dad is good.)
He's good.
(His body remembers the scent of the soccer ball.)
He's quite good. Show us something else.
I will go to take your ball. Get past me.
(He has to get past Tae Gyun.)
(Will he be able to do it?)
(He easily get past him.)
(His movement looks familiar.)
(He dribbles like Messi.)
(Nothing can stop me from going forward.)
(They are amazed.)
(This is just a warm-up.)
(Sighing)
Then...
- That's it. - you study about soccer so much.
Do you know what your daughters are...
- I know. - good at?
Are you studying about your daughters?
My first daughter...
does everything well on her own.
How about your second daughter?
My second daughter is the needy type.
Tell us more about your daughters in detail.
On a birthday or on a special occasion,
what would your first daughter want to get?
- Books. She wants books. - Books?
- She likes books. - Yes.
- So Yeon, - How about the second daughter?
what do you want to get from your father?
- Slimy monster. - Slimy monster.
- All kids love that. - That's right.
- Oh, dear. - They like slime.
What do you think your second daughter would want?
I think she would want a toy.
- What kind of a toy? - Which one?
Perhaps...
- a stuffed toy? - Wait. She's going,
"Aren't I too old to be playing with a toy?"
(Her face tells us that it's a wrong answer.)
She's cute. She's so cute.
(This is not easy.)
Let's get into a more serious topic.
What's your first daughter's dream?
- Teacher. - All right.
What's your second daughter's dream?
Doctor?
What's the answer, So Yeon?
What's the answer?
I want to be a forensic investigator.
A forensic investigator.
What's the second daughter's dream?
Chef.
(He completely failed.)
- What's wrong with you? - He got everything wrong.
(He's hopeless.)
To benefit your business, you joined three soccer clubs,
and you even do the administrative tasks for them.
Did you bring people who will support you?
I am sure he brought people.
It's Sunday today.
My junior was supposed to come with me, but...
did all your precious contacts go to play soccer?
Yes.
Then let's ask his wife.
- Did you bring anyone with you? - I brought my younger sister.
- Your younger sister. - Yes.
How do you feel when you see your sister?
Do you feel bad for her?
Yes. I feel bad for her.
She got married at a young age.
I regret not stopping her.
(She regrets not stopping her sister from marrying.)
My brother-in-law is young,
but he's a bit inflexible.
My sister and my nieces all have long hair.
Yes.
He won't let them cut their hair.
What?
- Why? - He's got the preconceived ideas...
about how women should be and how men should be.
You have all sorts of problems.
He does.
He doesn't let them cut their hair.
They can't wear skirts that go below their knees.
If my sister wears a see-through outfit,
What?
He says, "What's up with your outfit? Go get changed."
That's what he would do.
(The deeper we dig, the more terrible things we find.)
How about the chores?
When I ask my brother-in-law...
to help my sister with the chores,
he says, "Women should do the chores."
("Women should do the chores.")
That's what he said.
My gosh.
(He can't understand him.)
- Did he really say that? - Yes.
- He's... - My gosh.
I will check with him since I can't believe it.
- Sir. - Yes.
Why should all women have long hair?
Women are only women-like when they have long hair.
What?
(Please, Dad.)
Women are only women-like when they have long hair.
(His conservative mindset gives us chills.)
(The atmosphere suddenly chills.)
(Do you want to die?)
Then you must've hated seeing Ahn Jung Hwan...
playing soccer with long hair.
- Right. - I want to ask him.
(Yeong Ja is the best.)
Do you consider yourself...
conservative?
You distinguish between men and women. You differentiate their jobs.
- In the outside world, - "The outside world".
I don't distinguish between men and women.
But in my house, I am the head of the family.
And yet you are never home. How can you lead the family?
- Still... - The person who's never home...
is the head of the family.
(He redefined the meaning.)
The person who's never home is the head of the family.
I don't know about soccer well enough,
but I heard there's old soccer and modern soccer.
I heard skills, techniques, strategies change...
- according to time. - Every...
They change every year.
Sometimes, defense becomes the most important.
If you play the old way, you can't thrive in the modern soccer game.
You fall behind.
That's why I am asking this to you.
Even with soccer, you need to abandon the old ways...
and adapt to the modern ways to win.
But why do you insist on living the old way?
When you live in the modern times?
But why do you insist on living the old way?
When you live in the modern times?
You change your soccer techniques.
That's what surprises me.
(She's right.)
When you suffer together, you can get through it.
But if you become selfish and make one person suffer alone,
that person can't bear it.
(If you make one person suffer alone, that person can't bear it.)
Ma'am, at this point,
what do you want him to do?
How do you want your husband to change?
Even if I tell him to stop playing soccer,
he won't stop. I know that he will keep playing.
But our youngest was just recently born.
- So... - Tell him honestly what you want.
- How many times a week? - Twice a week.
You want him to spend two days a week for the family.
(That's such a small wish.)
What do you think about your wife's request?
I am hesitating because...
After working at the hospital one day,
I come home the next day.
(He gives excuses.)
Then we will give you some time to think.
I guess it was all too sudden.
Before the final decision,
we will give her time to make it an appeal.
Honey, for 10 years,
as the children's father,
I know that you've been working hard.
(In the end,)
(she sheds the tears of sorrow.)
She's put up with him for a long time.
(In the end, she sheds the tears of sorrow.)
Well done.
(In the end, she sheds the tears of sorrow.)
Our kids are still young.
(For the mother, the kids are always the number 1 priority.)
So please spend a little more time with them.
I hope you will do what you love...
a little less than now so that...
we can make good memories with the kids.
Let's clap for her.
(They clap for the mother's love.)
(When Mom cries, I get sad too.)
Since he can't turn down other people's requests,
let's ask him for favor.
Just twice a week.
Start. Just twice...
- A week. - A week.
One more time. Twice...
- A week. - A week.
You said you are bad at turning down other people's requests.
- But... - What's your decision?
I...
(Everyone pays attention to him.)
I will help out with cleaning the house.
I will play with the kids well too.
(Will he finally change?)
I will make an effort.
With that said, let's make it once a week.
(There's a twist.)
(He didn't change.)
(Even his second daughter turned her back against him.)
We can't end it here.
We can't let you go.
She even shed tears.
I've been a member of a baseball club for 30 years.
As someone with more experience, I will tell you this.
(He gives advice as someone with more experience.)
You think the team can't run without you.
But that's what you think.
They are not that worried.
If you are not there, someone will be the chairman.
- Right. - Someone will be the manager.
Even if you are not there, there will be 11 members.
But for your family,
if you are not there, they lose the captain of the ship.
(If he's not there, the captain of the ship will be lost.)
What do you say? Is it too much?
On Tuesdays, I will stay home.
No matter what happens, after work...
- I will stay home. - And?
(What about the other day?)
I will finish early on the weekends.
(He's made up his mind.)
I will take the kids to go see flowers...
and have a good time together.
- You will spend time with family. - Yes.
Yes. All right.
(We will cheer for his resolution.)
Let's start with Giant Pink.
She thinks it's a worry.
(Min Ju thinks it's a worry.)
As someone who has...
never been married, so...
- You surprised me. - Me too.
I thought you were making a confession.
I thought you were saying, "As someone who's..."
"been married once". You surprised us.
No. If I were their daughter,
I'd remember this even when I grow older.
Of course.
So I hope he will care about his children a little more...
and pay more attention to his wife.
I think he should spend at least two days a week...
for his family.
What I couldn't understand the most was this.
He can't turn down other people's requests.
But he just neglects his wife's request.
- I really can't understand that. - That's just wrong.
The last 10 years must've been tough for his wife.
If you agree, press the button.
(Please send us your worries about yourself, family, and friends.)
- Five, - That's a lot.
- 4, 3, 2, 1. - 4, 3, 2, 1.
Time's up.
Let's see how many votes she got.
- "A Goal-related Problem". - I think she got a lot of votes.
(The result)
I am sure she got over 100 votes.
151? 161?
161.
(161 votes)
This story is titled "The Room from the Netherworld".
I am a man in his 40s who's been working...
for 15 years.
My company is very liberal.
From the owner to the lowest rank employee,
everyone joins the meeting.
"For this upcoming new product,"
"we aim to increase last year's sale by five percent."
"We all need to put in our effort."
(Is it really a meeting?)
"Afterward..."
(Is it really a meeting?)
The issue is, we do all our meetings through group chat.
Our boss sends 100 messages a day.
(How many does he send?)
At times, he sends 300 messages.
(He sends 300 texts a day.)
He sends that many texts.
(Jaw dropping)
- 300? - What's worse is...
that he sends at 1am or 2am.
"I have..."
"given it...
"some thought."
"I think..."
"our company..."
"should go a certain direction."
(He sends texts in the middle of the night as well.)
(Ringing)
He likes to send many short texts.
I don't understand what's the rush...
when everyone has clocked out.
Why can't I just ignore them, you ask?
"Hello? You didn't reply back yesterday."
"What do you think about what I wrote?"
"Did you understand it? I wouldn't know since you didn't reply."
(He's exhausting.)
I hate it.
Please save me...
from this fiery pit of the boss's messages.
Many people are stressed out due to...
- these group chat. - Certainly.
To make it worse, it's related to work.
Please come on out!
(Who is this individual, tormented by countless texts?)
(Hwang In Chul)
Please introduce yourself.
Hello, I work in dried fisheries.
We distribute, produce, and sell them.
And I'm Hwang In Chul, the director of the headquarters.
(Welcome)
How many employees are there?
There are about 40 of us.
And they're all in that group chat?
No. About 17 of them.
I took matters into my own hands and came here.
I see.
Do you really get about 100 messages...
- per day? - We usually get 200 to 300.
It happens consistently.
- Consistently? - Does the boss sends them all?
Yes. It doesn't matter if it's the weekdays or the weekends.
- Even during the weekends? - Yes.
Saturday and Sunday. And even on holidays.
(The messages come nevertheless.)
- To employees? - On the holidays?
- On the holidays? - When you're on your break?
- On the holidays? - I can't rest in peace.
I'm too self-conscious to do that.
I know. I guess the boss doesn't rest.
He doesn't, but for about 30 minutes to an hour,
- he doesn't send any. - Why not?
(Attentive)
He's charging his phone.
(That's when the employees can rest.)
- What does he talk about? - Right.
- What does he? - It's about new products.
He has many ideas.
He's has many creative ideas.
- It's all his ideas. - Yes.
He doesn't send them in one long message.
He sends 2 or 3 at once.
He can easily send just one text,
- but he cuts them up. - I know those type of people.
"Mr. Kim." "About..."
"what I said..." "yesterday..." Like this.
Yes. So in a way, he's just throwing out...
anything he can think of.
"Throwing out"? Are you going to be okay?
- Your boss is here. - Right.
You should be careful with your words.
But it can't be helped. No matter how harsh I put it,
- he will never listen. - He never listens?
- He never listens? - No.
- So... - I wonder...
how bad the situation is.
We will show you the messages he received...
on March sixth. Let us see it.
Look at the time. 11:57pm 11:56pm. It's a 1-minute difference.
(The messages continued from the night before.)
- Oh, my. - Four minutes have passed by.
(He sent messages at midnight?)
"People in their 20s and 30s..."
"People in their 40s, 50s, and 60s..."
"Looking at the statistics..."
"People in their 20s and 30s..."
"The age groups..."
What is this long text?
He got it online.
"This is only an example."
"We can't be sure."
"Meeting details with the Director."
And so on, so forth.
"Also,"
"we should focus on this."
(It's as if he's jotting things down.)
"People in their 20s and 30s..."
"People in their 40s and 50s..."
"We need separate plans for each age group."
"The Director of the department..."
- Are we reading all of them? - I know, right?
I want you guys to be in his shoes.
I did it so that you'd be able to imagine their lives.
(Do you now understand?)
"Young age groups..." Didn't he send that before?
(It's the same screenshot.)
- Didn't he? - He repeats things.
(He sends repetitively.)
He keeps sending them in case they miss them.
(He's tenacious.)
He's the only one sending texts.
It's not a conversation.
- No one has replied. - No one has said anything.
- No one has replied. - It's not over yet.
- Let me speed up. - Okay.
All right, let's go.
(All these messages were sent in one day.)
- Goodness. - But...
- no one has replied. - They read it though.
You're right. No one has said anything.
Their phones keep ringing.
- My goodness. - I feel hot.
- My goodness. - My goodness.
That day, the boss sent...
a total of 182 messages.
- That's horrible. - And the employees sent...
a total of 13 messages.
It's difficult to find theirs.
Do you guys not meet up to have meetings?
Everything is done through text.
Really?
Yes. Our boss resides in Buan County.
- You don't see each other. - No.
And we're in Yangju where our company is.
So pretty much all the employees...
are in Yangju.
- You guys are separated. - I get it.
I do understand that you need to use text messages.
Me too.
But it's really not a necessity.
When he has things he wants us to do,
we have a hard time finding them.
So when we're driving or in our own meetings,
we miss the important parts.
- You need to keep scrolling. - Right.
Perhaps, the boss has too much time on his hands.
- Right. - While you guys are busy,
- he's just texting away. - You're right.
- He's in Buan County? - Correct.
Then perhaps, you should go to Mokpo...
and become the chairman of the soccer team.
- He will become busy. - Right.
All right. The simplest solution is for the boss...
- To leave? - to leave the group chat.
- We asked him to do so. - Did you?
- You did? - Yes.
We beg him to leave, and he does.
"Please get out of the group chat!"
- And then? - Then he asks the newbie.
Asks what?
He tells the newbie to invite him back in without my knowing...
and promises not to talk too much this time around.
- He asks to be invited again. - Yes.
And before I can even realize it, he's invited once again.
(He's back.)
My goodness.
- Then the cycle repeats itself. - That's exhausting.
He talks about how he won't talk too much from now on.
We're going crazy.
Let's meet the boss. Hello, sir.
Hello.
(He's the incessant texter.)
- He was talking quite harshly. - I know.
Are you all right? Will you punish him?
No, not at all.
- You need to be honest today. - Of course, I will.
You need to hear your employees' heartfelt feelings.
Do you understand his worry?
Of course, I do.
(He acknowledges.)
I do.
Then it's all solved.
- He understands. - Of course, I do.
But my position requires me to keep pressuring them.
If I don't consistently work,
there will be so many complicated variables.
We can't make progress.
But sending messages...
during working hours to discuss about things...
and messaging them late at night are different.
Don't you feel sorry?
No. I'm just doing my job.
As a boss, there's just so many things to study.
I need to study. I'm just doing my job.
- But sir, - They can mute their phones.
you could screenshot your notes...
and send them in the morning.
I know, but I'm forgetful.
(He keeps forgetting.)
So it's spontaneous.
- My goodness. - So...
as I think about things, new ideas start to pop up.
I'm just doing my job, and they can ignore me.
But these days, it's a serious issue to text after working hours.
We're just working, you know?
I'm just doing my job.
On top of that, I've already told them...
to mute their phones.
- But if they don't reply, you call. - Yes?
They just need to send me a reply if they got it.
If they read it?
Yes. They should give me feedback.
I go crazy if they don't.
They just need to get it.
(It's incomprehensible.)
(What does he mean?)
- Sir. - Yes?
You text spontaneously because you don't want to forget.
But it's really difficult to just ignore their boss's texts.
I really don't mind. That's the wrong way to think.
That's their problem.
It all boils down to work being work.
- "That's their problem." - They can be honest with me.
They need to be brave. I really don't mind.
But if they were to mute their phones just because of you,
they wouldn't be able...
- to pick up other people's calls. - Exactly.
I didn't think of that.
I really didn't.
You should've told him that.
- You should've. - Do tell me.
Is it possible to mute him?
Can't you mute separate chatrooms?
- Can't you? - Did you not tell the employees?
I'm sure the others have muted him.
- Right now? - Yes.
Because while we're selling our products,
we can't suddenly pull out our phones...
- to check his messages. - Right.
So after I'm all done and about to read them, he calls me.
He asks why I didn't read them.
That happened a long time ago.
- Nothing has changed much. - I think...
- he's a bit sulky. - You're right.
Not at all.
- Not at all. - I can see through you.
No. I'm not sulking.
I am ready to be criticized.
- No, you're sulking. - Not at all.
- I think he is. - No, I'm not.
(He has hilarious reactions.)
He's been working under me for 15 years.
Since he has 15 years of experience,
he could make a group chat...
with his employees and talk there.
He can leave the group chat.
- What? - He needs to.
- Because... - You can leave!
- He can leave. He has the right to. - You can leave.
- He's driving me crazy. - He can leave.
He's going crazy.
- Seriously. - He needs to leave.
- We need to work. - Right.
- We have affairs to take care of. - Right.
- We need to be easily reachable. - Right.
But the moment he joins, our messages have disappeared.
- It's disrupting their work. - Exactly.
If it bothers them, that's their problem.
- My goodness. - I...
(Even if viewers get frustrated, it's their problem.)
- This is insane. - I am playing my part.
You should listen to your employees.
I don't know why he is complaining to me.
- Okay. - It's their problem.
I don't know why he is complaining about his problem to me.
I don't work for him,
but I am frustrated to the point of insanity.
(Frustrated)
Other employees are here, too.
The four of them seem very nervous.
Hello.
- Hello. - Hello.
(Chief, Manager, Assistant Manager, and newbie)
Is everyone suffering...
because of the group chat?
I am suffering a lot.
Boss sends so many messages...
that I can't see the messages from my family and friends.
I muted the sound.
About two years ago, I got myself a private phone.
(He got himself a private phone.)
- A private phone. - Yes.
I got myself a private phone.
- Is it that bad? - Now I check messages...
on both phones.
When did the suffering begin?
10 years ago, instant messaging apps didn't exist.
Back then, he called,
emailed, and sent texts.
He has always pestered us.
Then KakaoTalk was made,
and we were very excited.
"Now, we just need to check KakaoTalk."
It created more problems.
If the developers of KakaoTalk are watching,
please come up with a function to mute one person...
in the group chat.
That was refreshing.
- He even has a solution. - Mute one person.
When I joined the company,
Boss didn't invite me to the group chat right away.
About 2 or 3 months later,
he invited me to the group chat.
Had he invited me...
to the group chat right away,
I would have thought about quitting.
But I got used to the work.
Since some time has passed,
I am in the position to invite new employees to the group chat.
I invited them.
When I invited them to the group chat,
I felt apologetic and worried...
that they might quit.
Let's talk to the Assistant Manager who got invited.
I joined the company five months ago.
In my first month, I talked to Boss on the phone.
He talked about what he said in the group chat,
so I read his messages again and again...
to understand.
He's trying to understand.
- I am trying... - He wanted to understand.
to understand.
The newbie.
It was a serious problem for me at first.
For 2 weeks, I charged my phone 3 times a day.
- Three times a day? - Yes.
(Boss' messages made the battery run out.)
What would you do if your friend does that?
I would swear at him.
(Thank goodness he is the boss.)
Is there something...
you wish he wouldn't say in the group chat?
- Chief, what do you think? - Chief.
There are some messages about work,
but he writes too much about his ideal, philosophy,
and vision.
He talks about...
- developing one's self. - He writes too much.
When he writes about...
- Kant. - Kant and dialectics,
I can't help but wonder, "Do I need to study these?"
When you enter the workforce,
you feel as though the future is unclear.
But you can't see the future from the present.
You should decide on what you want to achieve...
and study the future and present...
very calmly.
If I don't share this information with them,
they will struggle in society.
Were there employees...
who quit as they got stressed out because of these matters?
Were there employees who quit because they got stressed out?
About 30 to 40 employees have quit.
(About 30 to 40 employees have quit.)
- Don't lie. - In 15 years?
- In 15 years? - Yes.
It can't be because of him.
It's because of him.
It's because of his words and actions.
- Words. - It's not just the group chat.
Put the microphone away when you laugh.
He is addicted to the microphone.
Why do you think the employees quit?
When he scolds someone,
he does it publicly...
in the group chat.
(It's a public execution.)
- When he scolds someone, - Yes.
- everyone else... - They can see it.
can see it.
My goodness.
- I could be next. - Right.
If he scolds a senior employee...
in front of a junior employee,
- he will feel humiliated. - That's right.
I don't scold Dong Yeob in front of other people.
- You know that, right? - Of course.
I only scold him when we are alone.
I am checking their potentials.
I want to see if an employee is above...
criticism or praise.
Do you scold an employee in front of the others...
- to check his potentials? - Yes.
Friends have similar age...
- and life experiences. - Yes.
Thus, you have more freedom in how you treat your friends.
However, must you do that to Director Hwang...
or a newbie?
Their potentials will show.
- It's their business. - It's their business.
I will get good employees if they persevere.
That's what I think.
It's your tactic.
Your tactic itself is selfish.
I am selfish.
I know that.
You aren't considerate of your employees.
You make them feel certain emotions unnecessarily...
because of your tactic.
- I test them. - You make them...
feel embarrassed and humiliated.
(Put yourself in our shoes.)
Let's hear from another employee.
Is the person at the end...
an employee as well?
I am Director Hwang's wife.
You are Director Hwang's wife.
Welcome. It's nice to meet you.
Hello.
Are you here to cheer for your husband?
I am here to say a few words.
(Let's see this matter through.)
My youngest child practices judo.
My husband went to see his judo match,
but his boss made him miss it...
by calling and talking on the phone for three hours.
When we go camping,
I grill meat by myself...
while my husband is on the phone...
for 3 to 4 hours talking with his boss.
To be honest...
When we get in the car on the weekend...
and go somewhere...
Children ride in the back, right?
Then he tells them to be quiet.
Because he is on the phone?
If children coughs,
he scolds them afterward and it leads to a fight between us.
Your husband has become sensitive.
Tell us honestly.
How stressed out are you?
Until I was in my late 20s,
my hair wasn't silver.
- Did you dye your hair? - Yes. At the age of 31,
I began to have some silver hair. Now, it's completely silver.
- My goodness. - Are you serious?
There is a picture. My goodness.
I bet your children tell you not to come to school.
- Their friends call me Grandpa. - Grandpa.
- You dye your hair. - Children are like that these days.
My goodness.
(Their hearts ached as his hair turned silver.)
Didn't you know that...
Director Hwang was spending precious time...
with his family?
I didn't know. He should have told me.
If my junior comedian were in that position,
I would feel very sad and apologetic.
- He should have told me. - When you heard these words,
did you feel bad?
- Of course. - I see.
Had he told me,
I would have listened.
At this point, who are you the most worried about?
Boss's wife, right?
- Yes. - Yes.
We think your wife would have the biggest worry.
Is it her business?
No. She is a fine friend.
(My wife is a fine friend.)
- "A fine friend"? - Yes.
"A fine friend"?
Do you message...
- your family a lot too? - Never.
- Never? - Yes.
I wish I can hear from his wife,
- but his eldest son is here. - That's good.
- Welcome. - He is the eldest son.
Hello.
I want to know what he is like to his family.
Please tell us everything.
We don't have everyday conversations.
My mom tries to talk,
but my dad has a strong mind.
- That's right. - It's impossible to communicate.
- You can't communicate. - So my mom...
gave up.
- That's what I think. - Then she became a fine friend.
(Then she became a fine friend.)
You heard the worries your dad's employees have.
What do you think?
- I work for him, too. - What?
Do you work at your dad's company?
- Yes. - Are you in the group chat?
Yes, I enter when I work.
(The son has entered the group chat of the netherworld.)
I think I am the one with the biggest worry.
He sends messages to other employees,
but he shouts them directly into my ears.
That's right. His son has the biggest worry!
How long has it been since you joined the company?
I joined the company last July.
Then I quit work for a short while...
because of this matter.
- That's possible. - I wanted to find my passion.
Why did you come back?
Dad works without skipping a day,
but people at the other company were relaxed.
There were times they missed something important...
and messed up on the orders.
Thus, I came to understand...
why Dad works so hard.
However, the work-life balance has become important to...
- many people these days. - That's right.
I hope he corrects his ways...
and advances in a better direction.
(Why don't you find the middle ground?)
A job hunting website surveyed adult men and women...
and found that each person is in...
about 6.5 group chats.
82 percent of them were suffering...
from group chat-related stress.
What do you think?
Do you think you are utilizing the group chat well?
I still think it's necessary.
Once my employees become successful and confident members...
of the society,
the group chat will disappear.
That's what I think.
Also, they should speak their mind...
without hesitation...
even though I am the boss.
On Hello,
we had a boss...
who made his employees hike for their health.
We also had a boss who played soccer every week.
All of them...
cared about their employees.
But the way they showed their care...
didn't agree well with the employees.
You keep saying they should speak their mind,
but it's not as easy as you say...
for the employees. Even families can't communicate.
(I agree.)
We made a group chat for the employees only...
so that they can write what they want to say to you.
But all messages are anonymous.
You said earlier...
that they should speak their mind. Here it is.
- Okay. - Take a look.
"You are in a group chat without the boss."
"If you are having a hard time because of the boss, please share."
Here is the first one.
"Every time I hear the alarm, your face comes to mind."
"I need to go on a honeymoon."
"I am afraid I won't get to enjoy the first night..."
"because of the alarm and ringtone like someone."
Wait a minute. "I need to go on a honeymoon."
Then he will know who wrote it.
- For goodness' sake. - Even if he knows,
- he will be understanding. - I will be understanding.
That's right.
"I am suffocating because of the message alarms."
"After promising that he won't divulge information,"
"he posts it in the group chat."
"It puts me in a tight position."
"I feel like I am working 365 days a year."
"I am nervous and anxious. I am frustrated and exhausted."
Everyone is suffering.
(The employees gathered up their courage.)
(He begins to think.)
Since he loves his employees...
and has the best intentions,
he has been this way until now.
- I hope he trusts us... - And let go.
and lets go a little.
They say no one wants to be friends with a self-made man.
- That's right. - They never let go.
- Seriously. - "Why can't you do what I did?"
- They are the most difficult. - Workaholics are difficult.
The employees make me want to buy dried seafood from their company.
You know I love fried seafood.
But when I see the boss, that thought dissipates.
He doesn't listen.
(I was like that.)
I heard...
the employees' opinions.
So that everyone can work more effectively,
(Did they managed...)
(to change his mind?)
I will do as they suggested.
- We... - That's great.
(The stubborn boss changed in small way.)
Firstly,
I won't talk about private matters.
Will you send messages on the weekend?
I won't send messages on the weekend.
- I won't do that. - That's great.
(We are free!)
All right.
I don't see my employees often.
Since I don't see them often,
I want to tell them that I love them.
(I want to tell them that I love them.)
Director Hwang's wife cried earlier...
because she was so stressed out. You should apologize.
Hyun Sook, I am sorry.
I love you.
Your passion should now go...
to your fine friend.
Please say a few words to your fine friend.
- Look at this camera. - A fine friend.
My fine friend.
(Hey, my fine friend.)
I am really happy...
to live with such a fine friend like you.
I am not capable of doing that,
but don't let me hurt your feelings. Do what makes you happy.
- I love you. - That was great.
- I love you. - He is cool.
(He is the best.)
All right. Let's start with Haon.
I think it will be great to keep things minimal...
and share your ideas only.
- Keep things minimal. - I won't press the button.
- Okay. - Once or twice a month,
you should have a meeting with your employees.
- The worry has been resolved. - You don't think it's a worry.
For the first time in my life,
I was thankful that I don't have a phone.
- Please open up and listen now. - That's right.
I don't think it's a worry.
If you think it's a worry, please press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
Time's up.
How many votes did the worry get? Show us the result.
"The Room from the Netherworld".
118 votes.
(118 votes)
This week, "A Goal-related Problem" wins.
The winner will receive a cash prize. Congratulations.
Until the day we are all worry-free,
Hello will continue to counsel you.
Thank you.
("Violeta" by IZ*ONE)